1971 S UDU

[AOskam]

Just received my latest Teletrade purchase: two 1971 S MS66 PCGS Ikes. $63.50 with the juice and delivery. I went after them because I thought they were both UDU's. One coin is just that. The other turned out to not be a UDU - just a boring old TRIPLE DIE OBVERSE. Heavy tripling on the LIBERTY and readily apparent doubling on IGWT. The later dies state is probably obscuring any further tripling. 1971 S UDU's are tough - at least for me. This is only the second one I've run across since looking, and I've been looking!

I'd post pictures, but I don't have very good lighting this time of day. I'll see what I can do tomorrow.

Andy

[BrianVaile]

GREAT SCORE!
I would crack it out and send it to ANACS for UDU attribution. They will attribute it and the pop is only (5) right now. These are MUCH harder to find than people imagine. I am convinced that the die setters didn't know about the UDU when they pulled a clashed die for abrading AT THE BEGINNING....but they soon caught on, and began abrading that area as well.

This is a conclusion I drew from examining a LOT of clashed 71-S Ikes. Many of the clashed dies are abraded in the WE UDU area, and VERY, VERY few are abraded in ALL of the other clash "Spots" except in the UDU area. Since it was the first time they were stamping these puppies out,....it took them awhile to recognize the clashing areas that needed to be abraded. I doubt that one would find any UDU Silver Ikes after 1971.

The "Clashed E Reverse" is one of the most sought-after Morgan VAMS...because of a clashed LETTER on the reverse. The 71-S UDU Silver Ike is even better! Here, we have a clashed letter on the obverse! I predict the 71-S UDU will go down as one of the BEST Ike DIVA's ever!

Does your UDU have a nice TH as well?...or was it abraded?
GREAT score on the TDO as well! Can't wait for the pics.

edited to add: Maybe you don't want to crack it out...just send it in and see if they upgrade it.(I know they would at least keep it a 66). None of the (5) attributed UDU 71-S Ikes at ANACS are a 66! That would make your coin a top-pop if they crossed it and kept the same grade.
Happy Hunting!
Brian

[AOskam]

THe UDU coin does indeed have a nice Talon Head clash. Both that and the UDU are naked eye visible, especially with the right lighting angle. The UDU was abraded, but not thoroughly. It's a little tougher to see naked eye. The talon head is the clearest one I've ever seen on a 71S. However, I've only seen a few - they are a rarity!

[BrianVaile]

You know you have the "Eye" when you can pick off Silver TH's off of auction pics! At least yours was reasonable...I had to pay out the yazoo for mine because it was a 67!
Are you going to send it to ANACS, or wait until you have a few more and send them all at once?
Happy Hunting!
Brian

[BrianVaile]

With all of the looking going on at the 71-S Silver business strikes these days....Is any one finding any with the UDU? Besides the one Andy picked off of TT, I have heard of no one else finding these. So far, I have only been able to find (5) of them raw out of Blue Packs (the same batch).
If any one else has found any, could you please let me know. I did convince ANACS about them and they WILL attribute them as a "Clashed U Obverse".

Happy Ike Hunting!
Brian

[Sumdunce]

I have found several in varying state of abrasion lately. Maybe in the 10-20 range as far as numbers go.

I found one that I call the "2 U" that I will image tomorrow and post the images tomorrow night. It is a very nice example of the refurbisher going after the very easy to see details but leaving behind many images. It is a UDU (plus more), Volunteer, Hair Lip, Nose Hair, Faint TH, Crater Head, "UDL in the R" all of which were not abraded by the refurbisher. The worker did manage to remove the earth from the motto. I would have loved to see that clash image before abrading.

The reverse was cleaned up very well. There is just a hint of Eyeball Under Wing.

Anyway... look for more visuals tomorrow.

V/R



LaMont

[Sumdunce]

Andy,

Sorry, was not trying to hijack your thread.

I will post the images in another thread (call it "two U" or similar) after I post this.

V/R



LaMont

[AOskam]

I have thus far obtained coins from 3 definitely different obverse UDU dies. Does anyone have more information or further counts? I am curious as to know how many are out there.

Andy

[BrianVaile]

I've only been able to find (5) of the 71-S BS Ikes that had strong enough UDU's to get certified as such.
They are not easy to find....and ANACS will certify them as "Clashed U Obverse".
I have a feeling that, with a little looking, one could put together a pretty good set of these!
So far, I've found them on 71-D, 71-S, 72-P Type 1, 72-D, 74-D, 77-D and 78-P.

Happy Hunting!
Brian